From hol-owner Sat Mar 4 09:13:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-HOL Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA10636 for hol-out31415; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 09:13:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA10630 for hol; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 09:13:23 -0800 Received: via =-=-=-=-= from 100263.15@compuserve.com for hol@hungary.yak.net (hol) Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com (arl-img-1.compuserve.com [198.4.7.1]) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA10532 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 09:12:23 -0800 Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.941228sam) id MAA12791; Sat, 4 Mar 1995 12:11:48 -0500 Date: 04 Mar 95 12:10:48 EST From: Rick Bruner <100263.15@compuserve.com> To: Subject: (HOL) Useful lists for Journos Message-ID: <950304171048_100263.15_EHQ48-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-HOL@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: HOL@hungary.yak.net Greetings HOLers, I can only hope this message reaches all subcribers. I'm a bit confused, Strick and Steve, whether there is now only One True HOL, at this address, or whether the old Odin one still exists as well. Is everyone on only this list, or are both lists developing new susbcription bases simultaneous? Please advise us on where we should send messages when we post. In any event, I offer the following for public interest. It's a copy of three messages I came across in CompuServe's Journalism Forum. A handy list of some Net resources of special interest to journalists. Cheers, Rick Message: #436736, S/7 Business Journalism Date: Mon, Feb 27, 1995 7:03:22 PM Subject: INTERNET news From: Ariel Shlien 73150,3612 To: ALL Reply: #438266 (1 reply) I'm new to the world of cyberspace! Does anyone know which Internet Newsgroups journalists subscribe to receive new info, stories, etc.. Thanks, Ariel ----------------------- Date: Fri, Mar 3, 1995 3:53:29 AM Subject: #436736-INTERNET news From: Wally Bock/CA 71260,3150 To: Ariel Shlien 73150,3612 Ariel - Here are a couple. Society of Professional Journalists. listserv(at)psuvm.psu.edu Computer Assisted Reporting and Research listserv(at)ulkvym.lousiville.edu Online News majordomo(at)marketplace.com Sorry, I don't remember the exact subscribe protocols, but you should be able to get them with a little messing around. Wally Bock Cyberpower Alert! (tm) Newsletter Cyberpower (tm) for Business ------------------------------ Message: #438329, S/7 Business Journalism Date: Fri, Mar 3, 1995 6:26:19 AM Subject: INTERNET news From: Kim LaSalle 74011,233 To: Ariel Shlien 73150,3612 Ariel: This is just a part of the CARR-L list from Barbara Fought. To get the most recent list, you should contact her directly. This excerpt is from October 94 and is dated by now. Still it should give you an inkling of what is available. Kim LaSalle cis 714011.233 ----------------------------- >Reply-To: "Barbara C. Fought" Sender: Computer-assisted Reporting & Research From: "Barbara C. Fought" Subject:communications lists>X-To: carr-l@ulkyvm.louisville.edu >To: Multiple recipients of list CARR-L >For a great list of journalism resources, see John Makulowich's "The Journalism List." It's available from: CCARR-L files: send e-mail to listserv@ulkyvm.louisville.edu In message type: get journ lists f=mail >http:www.jou.ufl.edu/commres/jlist.html ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/journalism/jlist30.txt [version 2.6] gopher: una.hh.lib.umich.edu [path=inetdirrstacks/journalism] >Also, John Higgins has prepared a helpful source, "Cable TV Resources on the Net." It's available at:>http://www.cablelabs.com >or e-mail him: higgins@dorsai.dorsai.org >---------------------------------------------- Barbara Croll Fought Asst.Prof., Broadcast Journalism >bcfought@mailbox.syr.edu Newhouse School, Syracuse University >voice: 315/443-4054 215 University Place >FAX: 315/443-3946 Syracuse, NY 13244-2100 >WHAT are these Discussion Groups: They are discussions about a particular topic conducted over the Internet on electronic mail (e-mail). You subscribe (free) to the "list" and all the discussions come straight to your e-mail account. You can also think of them as a master mailing list--a message sent by one person automatically goes to everyone who has subscribed to the list. If you've heard about mailing lists or lists or listservs on the Internet, that's what these are. They are different, however, than newsgroups on Usenet on the Internet. YYou can subscribe and read the group messages without sending back, or "posting," a message, but after you've been on awhile, you'll probably want to join in. DDetails on how to subscribe are at the end of the list. >>>LISTS ABOUT JOURNALISM >CARR-L >Focuses on computer-assisted research and reporting including how to find data, software programs, and use of data in stories. Covers other journalism topics as well, and is one of the best lists around for working journalists. It's an active list, so expect 15 messages a day! >Subscription address: listserv@ulkyvm.louisville.edu >COPYEDITING-L >A list for copy editors which includes lots of helpful tips on grammar and sentence construction. >Subscription address: listserv@cornell.edu >FOI-L >A list for journalists and others interested in freedom of information issues, access to meetings and the public's right to know. A project of the National Freedom of Information Coalition, this discussion group is located here at Syracuse University and is managed by Prof. Barbara Fought. >Subscription address: listserv@suvm.syr.edu >IRE-L >General discussion about investigative reporting. Frequented by members of the professional organization, Investigative Reporters and Editors, IRE >Subscription address: listserv@mizzou1.missouri.edu >JHISTORY >Discussions about academic and professional issues related to the history of journalism, as well as info on job placements and research topics. >Subscription address: listserv@acfcluster.nyu.edu >JOURNET >Highly recommended. Frequented by many professors with wide-ranging discussions on course content, resources, teaching strategies, ethics, and current news events. Very active group. SSubscription address: listserv@qucdn.Queensu.Ca >NEWSLIB >All about researching news stories. Group is predominantly news librarians but includes journalists and researchers. Many helpful pointers to great sites on the Internet. SSubscription address: listserv@gibbs.oit.unc.edu >ONLINE-NEWS >For those involved in cutting edge technology of newspapers online and others interested in online technology. Very active group. >Subscription address: email to: >online-news-request@marketplace.com >SHOPTALK >Actually not a discussion group but a newsletter sent to your e-mail. Highly recommended for broadcast journalists. Published by headhunter and TV news consultant Don Fitzpatrick. Includes trend stories, job changes and reprints from newspaper media reporter columns on what's happening in various markets. SSubscription address: listserv@gitvm1.gatech.edu >SPJ-ONLINE >A new list run by the Society of Professional Journalists which has really become very active in recent months. Includes SPJ chapter updates and covers a wide range of topics. Frequented mostly by working journalists. SSubscription address: listserv@netcom.com >MAGAZINE >A more scholarly list which focuses on magazines. This list is run as part of Comserve. >Subscription address: comserve@vm.its.rpi.edu >WRITER >Discussions of feature writing, explanatory journalism, literary journalism and book journalism. Includes info on techniques, markets, jobs, agents and editors. This list is associated with the Creative Nonfiction Project at the University of Oregon and is coordinated by Pulitzer-prize winner Jon Franklin. A moderated list. >Subscription address: send your e-mail address, your name and a short introductory bio to Jon_Franklin@ccmail.uoregon.edu >HOW TO SUBSCRIBE >The subscription address for each list is given above. Remember, though, the address you send messages to "post" on the list is different. The general rule: ssubscribe to the listserv address -- listserv@domain post to the list address -- listname@domain >To subscribe you send an e-mail message to the subscription address. If the list doesn't use the LISTSERV program, you'll see other directions above. But in most cases, the lists (above) are automated using a mailing list program called LISTSERV. A machine automatically signs you up and sends you a welcome message. >The standard way to subscribe to any LISTSERV is: 1) send an e-mail message to the subscription address. Put the address after the TO: in the heading 22) leave other lines in the heading blank 3) in the body of the message (message text) type this format exactly --remember it's machine read: ssubscribe LISTNAME YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME You'll substitute the appropriate names for LISTNAME and YOURFIRSTNAME, YOURLASTNAME. For example if Jane Doe wanted to subscribe to the list called FOI-L she'd send this message: ------------------------------------------ TO: listserv@suvm.syr.edu >CC: >RE: >subscribe foi-l jane doe >----------------------------------------- Save the welcome message because it gives you information you'll need., like how to leave the list. Just so you know, the standard way to get off a LISTSERV list is to send another e-mail message to the LISTSERV: unsubscribe LISTNAME YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME >_________________________________________________________________ Newhouse and the Net #1; version 4, 10/94 (c) Barbara Croll Fought 1994; bcfought@mailbox.syr.edu S.I. 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