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From: Rick Bruner <100263.15@compuserve.com>
To: <HOL@hungary.yak.net>
Subject: (HOL) Useful lists for Journos
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Greetings HOLers,

I can only hope this message reaches all subcribers. I'm a bit confused, Strick
and Steve, whether there is now only One True HOL, at this address, or whether
the old Odin one still exists as well. Is everyone on only this list, or are
both lists developing new susbcription bases simultaneous? Please advise us on
where we should send messages when we post.

In any event, I offer the following for public interest. It's a copy of three
messages I came across in CompuServe's Journalism Forum. A handy list of some
Net resources of special interest to journalists.

Cheers,

Rick



Message: #436736, S/7  Business Journalism
Date:    Mon, Feb 27, 1995 7:03:22 PM
Subject: INTERNET news
From:    Ariel Shlien 73150,3612
To:      ALL
Reply:   #438266 (1 reply)

I'm new to the world of cyberspace!

Does anyone know which Internet Newsgroups journalists subscribe to receive
new info, stories, etc..

Thanks,
Ariel

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Date:    Fri, Mar 3, 1995 3:53:29 AM
Subject: #436736-INTERNET news
From:    Wally Bock/CA 71260,3150
To:      Ariel Shlien 73150,3612


Ariel -

Here are a couple.

  Society of Professional Journalists.
  listserv(at)psuvm.psu.edu

  Computer Assisted Reporting and Research
  listserv(at)ulkvym.lousiville.edu

  Online News
  majordomo(at)marketplace.com

Sorry, I don't remember the exact subscribe protocols, but you should be able
to get them with a little messing around.

Wally Bock
 Cyberpower Alert! (tm) Newsletter
 Cyberpower (tm) for Business

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Message: #438329, S/7  Business Journalism
Date:    Fri, Mar 3, 1995 6:26:19 AM
Subject: INTERNET news
From:    Kim LaSalle 74011,233
To:      Ariel Shlien 73150,3612


Ariel:

This is just a part of the CARR-L list from Barbara Fought. To get the most
recent list, you should contact her directly. This excerpt is from October 94
and is dated by now. 

Still it should give you an inkling of what is available.

Kim LaSalle
cis 714011.233

-----------------------------
>Reply-To: "Barbara C. Fought" <bcfought@mailbox.syr.edu> 
Sender: Computer-assisted Reporting & Research <CARR-L@ULKYVM.
BITNET> From: "Barbara C. Fought" <bcfought@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU> 
Subject:communications lists>X-To: carr-l@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list CARR-L <CARR-L@ULKYVM.BITNET> 


>For a great list of journalism resources, see John Makulowich's "The
Journalism List." It's available from: CCARR-L files: send e-mail to 
listserv@ulkyvm.louisville.edu In message type: get journ lists f=mail
>http:www.jou.ufl.edu/commres/jlist.html
ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/journalism/jlist30.txt 
[version 2.6] gopher: una.hh.lib.umich.edu 
[path=inetdirrstacks/journalism] 

>Also, John Higgins has prepared a helpful source, "Cable TV Resources on the
Net." It's available at:>http://www.cablelabs.com
>or e-mail him: higgins@dorsai.dorsai.org 

>---------------------------------------------- 
Barbara Croll Fought Asst.Prof., Broadcast Journalism
>bcfought@mailbox.syr.edu Newhouse School, 
Syracuse University
>voice: 315/443-4054 215 University Place
>FAX: 315/443-3946 Syracuse, NY 13244-2100

>WHAT are these Discussion Groups: They are discussions about a
 particular topic conducted over the Internet on electronic 
mail (e-mail). You subscribe (free) to the "list" and all the 
discussions come straight to your e-mail account. You can also 
think of them as a master mailing list--a message sent by one 
person automatically goes to everyone who has subscribed to the
 list. If you've heard about mailing lists or lists or listservs
 on the Internet, that's what these are. They are different, 
however, than newsgroups on Usenet on the Internet. 
YYou can subscribe and read the group messages without 
sending back, or "posting," a message, but after you've 
been on awhile, you'll probably want to join in. 
DDetails on how to subscribe are at the end of the list. 

>>>LISTS ABOUT JOURNALISM
>CARR-L
>Focuses on computer-assisted research and reporting 
including how to find data, software programs, and 
use of data in stories. Covers other journalism topics 
as well, and is one of the best lists around for working 
journalists. It's an active list, so expect 15 messages a day!
>Subscription address: listserv@ulkyvm.louisville.edu 

>COPYEDITING-L
>A list for copy editors which includes lots of helpful 
tips on grammar and sentence construction.
>Subscription address: listserv@cornell.edu 

>FOI-L
>A list for journalists and others interested in freedom 
of information issues, access to meetings and the public's 
right to know. A project of the National Freedom of Information
 Coalition, this discussion group is located here at Syracuse 
University and is managed by Prof. Barbara Fought.
>Subscription address: listserv@suvm.syr.edu 

>IRE-L
>General discussion about investigative reporting. Frequented
 by members of the professional organization, Investigative 
Reporters and Editors, IRE
>Subscription address: listserv@mizzou1.missouri.edu 

>JHISTORY
>Discussions about academic and professional issues related to the history of
journalism, 
as well as info on job placements and research topics.
>Subscription address: listserv@acfcluster.nyu.edu 

>JOURNET
 >Highly recommended. Frequented by many professors with wide-ranging
discussions on  course content, resources, teaching strategies, ethics, and
current news events. Very active group. 
SSubscription address: listserv@qucdn.Queensu.Ca 

>NEWSLIB
>All about researching news stories. Group is predominantly news librarians
but includes journalists and researchers. Many helpful pointers to great sites
on
the Internet. 
SSubscription address: listserv@gibbs.oit.unc.edu 

>ONLINE-NEWS
>For those involved in cutting edge technology of newspapers online and
others interested in online technology. Very active group.
>Subscription address: email to:
>online-news-request@marketplace.com

>SHOPTALK
>Actually not a discussion group but a newsletter sent to your e-mail. Highly
recommended for broadcast journalists. Published by headhunter and TV news
consultant Don Fitzpatrick. Includes trend stories, job changes and reprints
from newspaper media reporter columns on what's happening in various markets. 
SSubscription address: listserv@gitvm1.gatech.edu 

>SPJ-ONLINE
>A new list run by the Society of Professional Journalists which has really
become very active in recent months. Includes SPJ chapter updates and covers
a wide range of topics. Frequented mostly by working journalists. 
SSubscription address: listserv@netcom.com 

>MAGAZINE
>A more scholarly list which focuses on magazines. This list is run as part
of Comserve.
>Subscription address: comserve@vm.its.rpi.edu 

>WRITER
>Discussions of feature writing, explanatory journalism, literary journalism
and book  journalism. Includes info on techniques, markets, jobs, agents
and editors. This list is associated with the Creative Nonfiction Project at
 the University of Oregon and is coordinated by Pulitzer-prize winner Jon
 Franklin. A moderated list.
>Subscription address: send your e-mail address, your name and a short
introductory bio 
to Jon_Franklin@ccmail.uoregon.edu 


>HOW TO SUBSCRIBE
>The subscription address for each list is given above. Remember, though, the
address you send messages to "post" on the list is different. The general rule:

ssubscribe to the listserv address -- listserv@domain post to the list
address -- listname@domain
>To subscribe you send an e-mail message to the subscription address. If the
list doesn't  use the LISTSERV program, you'll see other directions above. 
But in most cases, the lists (above) are automated using a mailing list program
called LISTSERV. A machine automatically signs you up and sends you a welcome 
message.
>The standard way to subscribe to any LISTSERV is: 1) send an e-mail message
to the subscription address. Put the address after the TO: in the heading 
22) leave other lines in the heading blank 3) in the body of the message
(message text) type this format exactly --remember it's machine read: 
ssubscribe LISTNAME YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME You'll substitute the 
appropriate names for LISTNAME and YOURFIRSTNAME, YOURLASTNAME. For 
example if Jane Doe wanted to subscribe to the list called FOI-L she'd send
this message: 
------------------------------------------ 
TO: listserv@suvm.syr.edu
>CC:
>RE:

>subscribe foi-l jane doe
>----------------------------------------- 
Save the welcome message because it gives you information you'll need.,
like how to leave the list. Just so you know, the standard way to 
get off a LISTSERV list is to send another e-mail message to the LISTSERV:
unsubscribe LISTNAME YOURFIRSTNAME YOURLASTNAME


>_________________________________________________________________ 
Newhouse and the Net #1; version 4, 10/94 (c) Barbara Croll Fought 1994; 
bcfought@mailbox.syr.edu S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications
Syracuse University, NY







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