From hungary-online-owner Wed Mar 8 06:31:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-Hungary-Online Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA29312 for hungary-online-out31415; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 06:31:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA29306 for hungary-online; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 06:31:21 -0800 Received: via =-=-=-=-= from bodoky@hubi.abc.hu for hungary-online@hungary.yak.net (hungary-online) Received: from AGBICE.ABC.HU (agbice.abc.hu [192.146.134.1]) (fnord) by nando (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA29235 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 06:29:05 -0800 Received: from hubi.abc.hu by AGBICE.ABC.HU (MX V3.1) with SMTP; Wed, 08 Mar 1995 15:22:13 EST Received: by hubi.abc.hu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA06157; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:32:58 --100 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:31:57 +0100 (MET) From: Tamas Bodoky Subject: (HOL) Markoff sucks ! To: hungary-online@hungary.yak.net Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII content-length: 5837 Sender: owner-Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Hello all, last week i have been able to read all the NYT articles of Mr. Markoff on the Mitnick case, by courtesy of Mr. Vagvolgyi who sent them from the states. In my opinion these articles are worst than late communist Nepszabadsag was in the '80ties. For futher info on Markoff's "objectivity" check this out : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:08:43 +0100 From: USENET News System To: bodoky@hubi.abc.hu Subject: (fwd) Mitnick comments from the past Path: news.iif.hu!newsfeed.ACO.net!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!nntp-ucb.barrnet.net!well!emmanuel From: emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us (Emmanuel Goldstein) Newsgroups: alt.2600 Subject: Mitnick comments from the past Date: 19 Feb 1995 23:22:19 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Lines: 79 Message-ID: <3i8jrb$3pk@nkosi.well.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Back in 1991, Kevin wrote a commentary for 2600 on the Katie Hafner/ John Markoff book Cyberpunk. As far as I know, this is is the only time he ever made a public comment on any of this. ***** I am sad to report that part one of the book Cyberpunk, specifically the chapters on "Kevin: The Dark Side Hacker", is 20 percent fabricated and libelous. It seems that the authors acted with malice to cause me harm after my refusal to cooperate. Interestingly enough, I did offer to participate as a factual information source if I was compensated for my time, but the authors refused, claiming it would taint my objectivity. So consequently, I declined to cooperate. However, my co-defendant, Lenny Dicicco, of Data Processing Design, chose to participate probably in the hopes of being recognized as a "hero" who was responsible for bringing me to justice. Lenny seemed to have gained unquestionable credibility when he turned us both into Digital and the U.S. government. Surprisingly, he who "snitches" first is believed to be totally credible by the U.S. government. Case in point: most of the U.S. government's argument to hold me without bail was based on false information (this was later admitted by the U.S. government). This information, I believe, was mainly from Lenny Dicicco and his cronies (Steven Rhoades of Pasadena, CA). So once Lenny lied to the U.S. government he couldn't change his story, since he could risk violating his plea agreement or being indicted on federal perjury charges. Unfortunately, this probably resulted in a lot of false material being introduced by Lenny Dicicco, and Katie Hafner printing it as factual information in Cyberpunk. Katie probably wasn't happy with me for refusing to help her, so part one of the book was written with a strong anti-Mitnick, pro-Dicicco bias. This bias rewarded Lenny for his participation but robbed the readers of the real truthful facts! Lenny was described simply as an "errand boy" in our hacking exploits. This is the furthest thing from the truth! Lenny was just as culpable as me; we were hacking partners for over 10 years. What do you believe? Let's examine some interesting cover-ups Katie Hafner did for Lenny Dicicco: 1) In the galley copy of Cyberpunk, Katie Hafner wrote that Lenny Dicicco was going to work for DEC as a computer security consultant in lieu of court ordered restitution ($12,000). Why was the information eliminated from the final printed copy? Probably DEC wouldn't be happy with Lenny - he did provide Katie with enormous detail regarding the DEC break-in. Not to mention the controversial issue regarding DEC hiring the person that penetrated their network. 2) On page 80, Katie wrote that Lenny Dicicco obtained a false identity to obtain a job that required a "clean" driving record. The name Katie printed was "Robert Andrew Bollinger". This is false! The name of the "false" identity was "Russell Anthony Brooking". But why would Katie print this erroneous information? I know why! Lenny was working under the fraudulent identity (Russell Anthony Brooking) while he was collecting unemployment under his real name (Leonard Mitchell Dicicco) thereby defrauding the State of California! Now Katie wouldn't want the "truth" to be known - it might cause Lenny to refuse to participate in possible upcoming interviews and talk shows promoting her book. I could go on and on, even simple verifiable information. For example, on page 84, Katie describes a scenario where I asked Bonnie out on a date. To paint an unsavory picture, she stated that I was always eating in the computer room when talking with Bonnie. Very interesting, since at the Computer Learning Center of Los Angeles, no food or drinks can ever be brought into the computer room. Even though this scenario is pretty insignificant, it demonstrates the introduction of inaccurate and misrepresented facts. Again, when describing my arrest at USC in 1982, Katie wrote on page 71 that I taunted Mark Brown (USC System Manager) in his investigative techniques. This is truly amazing, since I never spoke with Mark Brown. There are many, many false statements, misrepresentations, and inaccurate stories in part one of this book. I could only say it is sad that the authors were too cheap to compensate me for my time. Instead they hid under the ruse of "tainted objectivity". This resulted in my refusal to participate. In summary, Cyberpunk is an interesting read-through as long as readers understand this purported non-fiction book is not what it claims to be. Part one of the book is 20 percent inaccurate. I believe the authors acted with malice due to my refusal to participate for free. Katie Hafner's only hope was seeking the cooperation of my convicted co-defendant, Lenny Dicicco. She did gain his full cooperation which resulted in a strong bias and misrepresentation of facts. ############# # This message to Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net # was from Tamas Bodoky # # To unsubscribe, # send "unsubscribe" to # An announcement-only subscription (less volume) is available # at # Send mail to for more information, # or to if you need human assistance. #############