From hungary-online-owner Wed Mar 8 16:08:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-Hungary-Online Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA05892 for hungary-online-out31415; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:08:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA05886 for hungary-online; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:08:34 -0800 Received: via =-=-=-=-= from carlson@odin.net for hol@hungary.yak.net (hungary-online) Received: from odin.net (root@omega.odin.net [193.130.116.3]) (fnord) by nando (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA05745 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 1995 16:06:41 -0800 Received: from [193.130.116.13] by odin.net with SMTP (8.6.10/1.2-btv) id BAA15330; Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:19:45 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 01:01:44 +0100 To: hol@hungary.yak.net From: carlson@odin.net (Steven Carlson) Subject: (HOL) Mitnick's vindictive charactor Sender: owner-Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Credit goes to the Narancs list for this find. =steve= --- Re: Kevin Mitnick arrest From: fisher@chr27 (Lawrence W. Fisher) Date: 21 Feb 95 13:04:38 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Newsgroups: comp.org.decus, comp.security.misc, alt.2600 References: 1 , 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Many people have been debating whether or not the things Kevin has done merit such a stern sentence. People have to look past this latest incident, to the full pattern of how Kevin works, his vindictive nature, and his disregard for society, to see why this individual needs to be kept away from society for our own and his own protection. Here is an article from a previous arrest, from several years ago. It gives some specifics about Kevin that the media has failed to pick up in this latest arrest: [Los Angeles Times article, dated Friday, December 16, 1988] Ex-Computer "Whiz Kid" Held on New Fraud Counts By Kim Murphy, Times Staff Writer Kevin Mitnick was 17 when he first cracked Pacific Bell's computer system, secretly channeling his computer through a pay phone in a San Fernando Valley parking lot to alter telephone bills, penetrate other computers, and steal $200,000 worth of data from a San Francisco corporation. A Juvenile Court judge at the time sentenced Mitnick to six months in a youth facility, and he was released on probation after serving his sentence. Suddenly, his probation officer found that her phone had been disconnected and the phone company had no record of it. A judges credit record at TRW Inc. was inexplicably altered. Police computer files on the case were accressed from outside. A new warrant for Mitnick's arrest was issued, accusing him of breaking into TRW's computer, but he fled to Israel. Upon his return, there were new charges filed in Santa Cruz, accusing Mitnick of stealing software under development by Microport Systems, and federal prosecuters have a judgment showing Mitnick was convicted on the charge. There is, however, no record of the conviction in Santa Cruz's computer files. On Thursday, Mitick, now 25, was charged in two new crimpinal complaints accusing him of causing $4 million damage to a Digital Equipment Corp. computer, stealing a highly secret computer security system and gaining access to unauthorized MCI long-distance codes through university computers in Los Angeles and England. U.S. Magistrate Venetta Tassopulos took the unusual step of ordering the young Panorama City computer whiz held without bail, ruling that when armed with a keyboard he posed a danger to the community. "This thing is so massive, we're just running around trying to figure out what he did," said Assistant U.S. Atty. Leon Weidman, who is prosecuting the case. "This person, we believe, is very, very dangerous, and he needs to be detained and kept away from a computer." Investigators from the FBI, the Los Angeles County district attorney's office and the Los Angelese Police Department say they are only now beginning to put together a picture of Mitnick and his alleged high-tech escapades. "He's several levels above what you would characterize as a computer hacker." said Detective James K. Black, head of the Police Department's computer crime unit. "He started out with a real driving curiosity for computers that went beyond personal computers . . . He grew with the technology." Mitnick's lawyer, Anthony J. Patti, said he would have no comment on the case pending Mitnick's arraignment on two counts of computer fraud. The case is believed to be the first in the nation under a federal law that makes it a crime to gain access to an interstate computer network for criminal purposes. He faces a maximum of 20 years in prison and a $500,000 fine. Federal prosecuters also obtained a court order Thursday restricting Mitnick's telephone calls from jail, fearing he might gain access to a computer over the phone lines. At Mitnick's request, Tassopulos authorized him to telephone his lawyer, his wife, his mother and his grandmother under jail officials supervision. Los Angeles police are trying to determine what other damage Mitnick may have done with his computer terminal, Black said. [End of Los Angeles Times article, dated Friday, December 16, 1988] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lawrence Fisher Realtime Software Consultant Fisher@LASCPM.ENET.DEC.COM Digital Equipment Corporation Southern California -- From the desert to the sea, helping meet Digital's Realtime needs -- * This message reflects my own views/opinions, not those of my company * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Steven Carlson Moderator/Publisher - hungary-online Critical Mass Media Inc. Internet trainer, consultant [+361] 133-4647 in Budapest, Hungary carlson@odin.net ############# # This message to Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net # was from carlson@odin.net (Steven Carlson) # # To unsubscribe, # send "unsubscribe" to # An announcement-only subscription (less volume) is available # at # Send mail to for more information, # or to if you need human assistance. #############