From hungary-online-owner Sun Mar 12 20:03:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-Hungary-Online Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA20672 for hungary-online-out31415; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:03:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA20666 for hungary-online; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:03:32 -0800 Received: via =-=-=-=-= from fekete@bcuxs2.bc.edu for hungary-online@hungary.yak.net (hungary-online) Received: from bcuxs2.bc.edu (bcuxs2.bc.edu [136.167.15.3]) (fnord) by nando (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA20601 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 20:02:39 -0800 Received: by bcuxs2.bc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17850; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:04:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 23:04:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" To: Dave Del Torto Cc: Steven Carlson , Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Subject: Re: (HOL) soc.culture.hungarian Usenet proposal In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net I'm feeling a bit guilty for taking a Usenet discussion here - on the other hand I need all the votes I can gather, so here it goes: On Sun, 12 Mar 1995, Dave Del Torto wrote: > This is the first I'd heard of this proposal, but I'm behind it 100%. > Absolutely no-one in the States has any idea whatsoever what "Magyar" means > (well, maybe Strick, me and a few Magyar ex-pats), and that fact alone may > account for the low traffic. Seems to me that if it's intended to give > browsers a peek into some Hungarian issues, it might be a sensible change > to make. > > Of course if it's meant to be obscure by _design_, that's another thing. Actually, I got one bona fide American who argued that it's an English word, really (did not answered my ripost however if Dan Rather can pronounce it ;-)). He termed my renaming proposal as "dumbing down" ;-<. And some mentioned that obscurity might restrict audience to the worthy ones - an idea that has demonstrated unworkable already, incidentally. It seems that there was not any design involved back some four years ago. The originally proposed name had been s.c.h, but then someone suggested s.c.m and it stayed that way - many of us voters were unaware of the whole issue (nor Usenet altogether) at the time and flocked to vote for the group when it was announced to the email lists the s.c.m was to be formed. Now I think its high time to pronounce the noble experiment failed. More and more Hungarians, expatriate and visiting alike (not that many in the home country, unfortunately ;-() gain net access without a clue as to the existence of s.c.m, and we can't blame them. -- Zoli fekete@bc.edu, finger magyar@world.std.com for the charter of s.c.h # Wallace Sayre said, "Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter # form of politics, because the stakes are so low." He didn't know # Usenet: welcome to the next level. (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) ############# # This message to Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net # was from "Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq" # # To unsubscribe, # send "unsubscribe" to # An announcement-only subscription (less volume) is available # at # Send mail to for more information, # or to if you need human assistance. #############