From hungary-online-owner Tue Mar 28 17:20:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-Hungary-Online Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA17467 for hungary-online-out31415; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 17:20:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA17458; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 17:20:09 -0800 Received: from tbeke@hix.mit.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for hungary-online@hungary.yak.net (17456) Received: from hix.mit.edu (HIX.MIT.EDU [18.74.1.137]) (fnord) by nando (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA17451 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 17:20:00 -0800 Received: (from tbeke@localhost) by hix.mit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA07081 for Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net; Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:21:19 -0500 From: Tibor Beke Message-Id: <199503290121.UAA07081@hix.mit.edu> Subject: Re: (HOL) More on Net.Narancs To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:21:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <950328201604_100263.15_EHQ29-1@CompuServe.COM> from "Rick E. Bruner" at Mar 28, 95 03:16:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 4293 Sender: owner-Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net > two options for the "Host character set": either ASCII or Latin-1. When you [snip] > Latin-1 thing a universal format that's support on the Net as well? Anyone I doubt USENET supports it. I doubt most email readers support it, save perhaps Eudora and those with MIME encoding (?). I'm really glad you brought that up, not because I can answer it, but 'cos somebody can, and it properly belongs in a FAQ. One that I swiped from soc.culture.magyar and am currently updating. Stay tuned! > the amount of regular advertising, the Narancs is already pretty non-profit > it is. Has anyone approached Soros or another foundation about sponsorin > it? Soros is really into things wired. Boy, is that part of the brainstorming effort. :) It's more a matter of convincing his wired advisors than himself, but I shut up, lest it turn out they all read HOL. >> I'm dying to see how the competition reacts! :-) > Is that a joke? What competition? Beszelo? Magyar Hirlap? Zsaru Magazin? You > think any other Hungarian news organization is actually going to even *notic > that there's such a thing as the Internet, much less the Narancs' activity > thereon. Now that's a low blow :) First of all, they'll notice Narancs's underground schemes 'cos they read it, secondly, even in that backward backwoods country of lazy and inefficient minds that Hungary is, they're aware of the Net. They slowly even start to write about it, and not only in BBJ. :) > (Are there other academic users of SLIP services (which is what you need to > use a Web browser, right?), or is the EUnet service I'm going through, plus > Odin, 100% of Hungary's truly wired population?) You mean: wired at home. WWW needs the Internet Protocol to work, that's all. SLIP ('serial line internet protocol', i believe) will do, or PPP (to be offered by SzTAKI, I think) if you're not on Ethernet or whatever equivalent. As many people are in the university computer clusters, or in the office. :) > going to need to do more than add classified order forms to make it worth the > $100/month or so it costs to get on the Net here, though. I'm constantly Using a BBS is cheaper, mind you. > Repeatedly, I see references to Wired magazine's HotWired as the best example It's "cool", as some would say. :) There's also something schizoid about it, since they essentially only cover cyber-, hyper-, and sub- , but they must also stay civilized and demure. They manage, with a slight and welcome touch of self-irony and, occasionally, intelligence. > I do, nonetheless, have a few suggestion (never short of those). Just on the > level of "extra articles" as you described, one thought that comes to mind is > that reporters could post their entire interview transcripts. That is, if a Hey, there's the author's revenge on the editor -- who can prohibit one from posting rejected and mutiled articles in full on a BBS? :) Just teasing ;-) no, it's quite an idea. > Also, databases. This could be a very valuable service to online subscribers. > Just huge banks of contacts, with little write-ups, telephone numbers, etc. [snip] > contacts, entertainment editors' write-ups of clubs, business contacts, shops, > etc. Add to it as you go along. Some more excellent thoughts! > Live, interactive "conferences" with famous Magyars fielding questions online > with wired Magyars from around the Globe. Perhaps I'm letting things leak prematurely, but this tele-conference business (something HotWired does regularly) was among the very first ideas that Jozsef [Hollosi] contributed, and Andras [Vagvolgyi] caught. The software is here, it's been tested a little, and there're ideas for participants as well. The topic of the first conference is to be some borderline or intersection between the nerdish (read: what Net is) and the fascinating (read: what the Net does). > Very important, in a word: English. Face it, anything you put online in > Hungarian is going to attract a limited number of readers as your language is, > to be blunt, weird and not very well-known worldwide. Almost all Magyars who Look, Ma [=mother tongue], he's sending my God-forsaken soul into despair and decay! :) Also, have you just been answering one of the pleas I put in a footnote to my original announcement? :) Tibor ############# # This message to Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net # was from Tibor Beke # # To unsubscribe, # send "unsubscribe" to # An announcement-only subscription (less volume) is available # at # Send mail to for more information, # or to if you need human assistance. #############