From hungary-online-owner Tue May 30 06:35:32 1995 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA23641 for hungary-online-out31415; Tue, 30 May 1995 06:35:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) (fnord) by nando.yak.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA23632; Tue, 30 May 1995 06:35:20 -0700 Received: from carlson@odin.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for hungary-online@hungary.yak.net (23630) Received: from odin.net (omega.odin.net [193.130.116.3]) (fnord) by nando (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA23553 for ; Tue, 30 May 1995 06:31:05 -0700 Received: from [193.130.116.13] by odin.net with SMTP (8.6.10/1.2-btv) id PAA02080; Tue, 30 May 1995 15:31:01 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 15:24:29 +0100 To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net From: carlson@odin.net (Steven Carlson) Subject: Re: (HOL) Re: (HOL-A) Magyar geeks get chicks Sender: owner-Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net At 5:31 PM 5/29/95, Tibor Beke wrote: > If you permit me to drop a few remarks -- I don't think your argument is > phrased carefully enough. For one thing, the Usenet has retained an > EXTREMELY strong heritage of the subcultural. Let me quote some evidence > from my .newsrc: I agree - Usenet is very subcultural, underground, and maybe even subversive I think you agree with my first point that the Magyars just don't have the critical mass yet to sustain a Mekk Mester newsgroup. As you point out, that has to do with the relatively high cost of Net access here, and the fact that the "hu" hierarchy is still very new. As to whether Hungarians would get passionate about discussing television ... > The Magyars watch an unhealthy dose of TV -- not because they like it, > but because they don't -- they're known to watch channels in languages > they don't understand (isn't that remarkable?); they discuss it, hate > it, crack jokes about it (you may be aware of the ample supply of jokes > about ads, for example); they gossip, talk politics or current events, > even get emotional or excited, and will start doing that on the Net as > soon as gripping socio-economical factors allow the Net to be an > appropriate medium for that. Perhaps I was off the mark here - that's why I'm glad to get reader feedback. Personally, I just don't see Hungarians as passionate about TV as Americans usually are, but I have noticed this spate of jokes about ads. And I'm sure younger Magyars are growing up as TV saturated as US kids. > I think it very unfortunately borders on the stereotyping (and > misleading). Maybe if you'd written, "My buddies -- these journalistic, > businessman types -- are much more interested in jobs and computers" > it'd be more precise . Forgive me if I'm perpetuating a stereotype. It's not intentional. BTW who are these "journalistic, businessman types" that you're refering to? Most journalists are about as far as you can get from the suit and tie crowd as I could possibly imagine. =steve= --- Steven Carlson moderator/publisher - hungary-online Critical Mass Media Inc internet trainer, consultant [+361] 133-4647 in Budapest, Hungary carlson@odin.net ############# # This message to Hungary-Online@hungary.yak.net # was from carlson@odin.net (Steven Carlson) # # To unsubscribe, # send "unsubscribe" to # An announcement-only subscription (less volume) is available # at # Send mail to for more information, # or to if you need human assistance. #############